The Pirates Still Suck ……..Pittsburgh Pirates That Is…… !

The Pirates Still Suck ……..Pittsburgh Pirates That Is…… !

I’ll continue to maintain the the Bud Selig led hierarchy of MLB have about as much common sense as both legislative houses of the federal government.Both the Senate and the House of Representatives have showed us that they care about as much for the country and its populace, about as much as a piece of fecal matter that’s stuck on the soles of their shoes. And all that hey’d seemingly want to do, is to scrape of the bottom of the soles of their shoes of the remnants stuck to it , in order to carry on with business as usual. Though unlike the government, baseball has yet use the fans in the way the government has. Sorry, strike that , as both they (MLB) and the MLBPA (Players’Union) have continually screwed the fans over and continue to do so , to this day !

Pittsburgh Pirates' Garrett Jones tosses his bat after he is called out on strikes during the third inning of a baseball game against the Chicago Cubs at Wrigley Field in Chicago. They lost 99 games last year during a record 17th consecutive losing season, the longest such streak in any of the four major American pro team sports. Is this team even trying? photo appears courtesy of Associated Press/ Charles Rex Arbogast ..........
Pittsburgh Pirates' Garrett Jones tosses his bat after he is called out on strikes during the third inning of a baseball game against the Chicago Cubs at Wrigley Field in Chicago. They lost 99 games last year during a record 17th consecutive losing season, the longest such streak in any of the four major American pro team sports. Is this team even trying? photo appears courtesy of Associated Press/ Charles Rex Arbogast ..........

Now in spite of this all, Bud Selig would have us believe that the game is as good as its ever been. And that may well be the case, given the fact that the New York Yankees have spent their way to another World Series championship. But it certainly doesn’t allay the fears of the fans who see the small market teams that continue struggle , either through their own sheer naivete or just plain mismanagement on the part of their owners. Granted , these are now dire economic times for all of the four major sports. But that shouldn’t at all excuses the lack of planning either on the part of baseball’s hierarchy or that of the owners. But somehow, the owners, much like the idiot executives who run both Chrysler and GM would seek to apportion blame elsewhere for their travails. And it’s certainly beginning to look that way for another under achieving baseball franchise. In this case , that just happens to be the NL Central’s Pittsburgh Pirates (62-99). A team that’s so devoid of competitiveness and seemingly talent , that it simply doesn’t bear thinking about. Never mind the fact that the organization’s front office is ran along the lines of it being a Ma and Pa’ family business only catering to the needs of a few, rather than that of a burgeoning community at large. Principal owner and Chairman of the Board, Bob Nutting , has shown the fans that whatever altruistic thoughts he has concerning the organization, is simply to view the Pirates as a way of making money at the largess of the fans and via the monies his ownership group are in receipt of via MLB’s revenue sharing , that comes by way of their asinine ‘luxury tax’. Which if anything hasn’t benefited the teams but more so made them lazy and incumbent on receiving that money , merely as way of fattening their bottom line. This money is meant for the use of the teams to strengthen their rosters in order to place a competitive product on the field. Something which hasn’t been done by the Pittsburgh Pirates in years !

Pittsburgh Penguins co-owners Mario Lemieux, left, and Ron Burkle celebrate winning the Stanley Cup hockey championship with fans as they move along the victory parade route in Pittsburgh, Monday, June 15, 2009. The Penguins defeated the Detroit Red Wings, 2-1 in game 7, Saturday in Detroit. photo appears courtesy of Associated Press/ Keith Srakocic .....
Pittsburgh Penguins co-owners Mario Lemieux, left, and Ron Burkle celebrate winning the Stanley Cup hockey championship with fans as they move along the victory parade route in Pittsburgh, Monday, June 15, 2009. The Penguins defeated the Detroit Red Wings, 2-1 in game 7, Saturday in Detroit. photo appears courtesy of Associated Press/ Keith Srakocic .....

Courtesy of Associated Press and Yahoo Sports

Pirates owner rejected Lemieux offer to buy team

By Alan Robinson , AP Sports Writer

Pittsburgh (AP)—Pirates owner Bob Nutting declined to listen to separate proposals to buy the team last year, including a surprise bid from Pittsburgh Penguins co-owner Mario Lemieux, officials with knowledge of the talks told The Associated Press.

The officials spoke Saturday on condition of anonymity because the talks were private. The Pirates confirmed discussions with Lemieux and Penguins co-owner Ron Burkle took place, but said there was no talk about selling.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette first reported Saturday that Lemieux and Burkle made an unsolicited proposal for the Pirates four months ago—one that was substantial and serious, a person with knowledge of the offer told The Associated Press.

Previously, Nutting turned aside several sale overtures made by Pittsburgh lawyer Chuck Greenberg, who subsequently teamed with Nolan Ryan to purchase the Texas Rangers in a deal completed last week.

Several years ago, Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban also was rebuffed in efforts to buy the team.

Nutting gave all the interested parties the same answer: The Pirates aren’t for sale, and the discussions apparently went no further.

“No formal, substantive offer had been made at a meeting four months ago with Bob and Mario and Ron Burkle,” Pirates president Frank Coonelly said Saturday at the team’s fan festival. “But what I can confirm for you is, at that time, today, tomorrow, next week, the Pirates are not for sale. Bob Nutting is committed to making this organization a winner again.”

While the Pirates acknowledge they are profitable, they aren’t successful. They lost 99 games last year during a major league-record 17th consecutive losing season, then raised fans’ ire by trimming their payroll below that of the 1992 Pirates, the franchise’s last team to make the playoffs.

The Pirates’ projected $35 million payroll is only about half of the totals for NL Central rivals Cincinnati and Milwaukee, despite being in a similar-sized market, and is expected to be the lowest in the majors by at least $5 million.

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Pittsburgh Pirates’ principal owner and Chairman Bob Nutting speaks about the firing of former team GM Dave Littlefield. The firing took place in September of 2007. The organization has been riddled with ineptitude prior to and since Nutting took over the ballclub. If you listen to Nutting’s statement closely, you clearly see that his words are about as sincere as that of rapist suggesting that his reasons for committing his crimes were because he wanted to. Nothing about his actions since , would suggest that Nutting is looking for success with the organization. If that were the case then there would be a product on the field of play that Pirates’ fans would genuinely want to see and would be at PNC Park, Pittsburgh , in ever increasing numbers.
Instead it has been dwindling attendance and not a great deal for the fans to cheer about , at all !

The fact of the matter is , under Bob Nutting’s regime the organization has never sought to be competitive. They are merely going through the motions and whilst this is going on , MLB’s hierarchy merely sits back and watch as another baseball franchise perpetrates a massive fraud on its fans and the game of baseball as a whole. It’s not anything new , given the fact that Bud Selig and his minions were asleep at the wheel during the ‘steroid era’, knowing full well what was going on underneath their very noses. And the subterfuge was aided and abetted by the owners and players alike. Never mind the fact that those self endearing and pious as_sholes of the Baseball Writers Association of America (BBWAA), acted as if nothing was going on. They too, alongside the triumvirate of the owners , players and MLB hierarchy sold the fans a ‘bill of goods’ that wasn’t even worth a plug nickel. But in the end, they made out like thieves in the night escaping with their ‘swag’ !

Sidney Crosby (left) and his teammate Evgeni Malkin of the Pittsburgh Penguins. In terms of recognizable household names the Pittsburgh Pirates have absolutely no one on their roster to match the star power of the Penguins' duo. photo appears courtesy of Associated Press / Victor Hughes ............
Sidney Crosby (left) and his teammate Evgeni Malkin of the Pittsburgh Penguins. In terms of recognizable household names the Pittsburgh Pirates have absolutely no one on their roster to match the star power of the Penguins' duo. photo appears courtesy of Associated Press / Victor Hughes ............

And if you thought that things are liable to get any better under Nutting’s management style . Then , think again, as he’s simply lowered the team’s payroll to $35 million, which is amongst the lowest in all of baseball. If he’s of the opinion that a team with that sort of payroll is liable to be competitive within the division , much less the rest of baseball. Then, he’s as big an idiot as he appears to be on first appearance ! In what’s now highly competitive sport where $35 million won’t even get you an aisle seat to the playoffs. Nutting and his team are under the impression that the Pittsburgh Pirates are going to be competitive ? In what damn time dimension is this ‘moron’ living in ? But as I’ve alluded to before on countless occasions , owners in MLB (major league baseball) have about as much common sense as the members of Congress. More often than not when it comes to dealing with financial matters, it’s as if they were more often than not playing with ‘Monopoly money’. They’ll either spend frugally or make complete asses of themselves by spending stupidly on acquiring talent that’s simply not worth the money at all. That e same can be made for the federal government , the owners within baseball, their innate spending practices and consumption of useless materials.

Courtesy of MLB.com

Nutting: Pirates ‘not for sale’

Penguins’ owners asked about Bucs’ status

By Ed Eagle MLB.com

Penguins owners Ron Burkle and Mario Lemieux reportedly considered making an offer to buy the Pirates last fall, but the ballclub’s owner made it clear the baseball team was not, and is not, for sale.

According to a report Saturday in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Pirates owner Robert Nutting took part in a get-together hosted by the Penguins during which the status of the franchise was among a variety of items covered. Beyond that, Nutting, reached for the story Friday night, told the newspaper:

“Honestly, I’m not sure there’s a situation to describe. I like Ron. He’s an extremely competent businessman and deal-maker, and we’ve talked about a wide range of topics. But I think the simplest way to say this is that there never has been a substantive or formal offer for the team. The team is not for sale.”

And, Nutting added, the team has not been available for sale since he took over the club from Kevin McClatchy in early 2007.

“The team has not been for sale and is not for sale,” Nutting said. “I’m excited about where we are. We’ve made some tough decisions, made a lot of progress and, frankly, we’re just getting started with where we’re headed. A sale is simply not an option that’s on our table.”

Former NHL great , Mario Lemieux and presently the owner of current Stanley Cup holders, Pittsburgh Penguins has formed a syndicated partnership , with the express opinion of purchasing the Pirates from Nutting and his syndicate group. Lemieux , through considerable spending on his part of his own finances and that of his group bought the Penguins when they were in bankruptcy protection and has now made the team one of the major success stories of the NHL. But not only that , with budding superstars Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin the team has become one of the most sought after sporting attractions in the city of Pittsburgh. In the pecking order of things it’s the Steelers first, the Penguins second and somewhere holding up the rear end of an elephant’s behind and fecal deposits comes the ‘Pittsburgh Pirates’ . And that’s about as envious a position as the baseball team is ever likely to be in for the foreseeable future . And much of this has been down to the acute entrepreneurship shown by Mario Lemieux and the Penguins’ ownership group as a whole. Lemieux and co-owner , billionaire entrepreneur and businessman, Ron Burkle , have seen fit to make the organization an attractive and family friendly, not just for Penguins’ fans but even for any sports’ fan with a mind a part-take of a hockey game within the city.

Granted, Nutting and his partners have only been stewards of the organization for three years. But in that time, the team has yet to show any improvement on the field . Much less there being a sound management structure in their front office. The fans have had to endure 17 consecutive seasons of mediocrity without a winning season to show for it all since 1992 . If that’s not an indication as to how far the Pirates have fallen . Then there has to be something to be said for the still ardent fans who are prepated to endure and stomach much of the mediocrity that has been forthcoming from the organization.

Pirates’ manager, John Russell has been stifled by the very fact that the front office is unwilling to spend the money necessary to strengthen and improve the roster. But yet Bob Nutting claims the Pirates to be a profitable concern. That may well be true but at the same time he and his partners are short-changing the fans of the team. And while one can opine that the team is a very young one, built around the nucleus of youth and some veteran experience . The one telling trait here is that there’s no one on the team that one can point to , as being its ‘vocal team leader’ both on and off the field of play. Every ‘good team’ if it’s to have any chance of success, has to have this in part, if it at all aspires to being great. At this juncture that most certainly can’t be said of the Pittsburgh Pirates .

Players such as Zach Duke, Donnie Veal , Ryan Doumit, Andrew McCutchen , Lastings Milledge and Gorkys Hernandez . While they’re viewed as works in progress, that may well lead to us seeing a resurgence of the team. It has to be said that the other occupants of the NL Central will have progressed even further than the Pirates have done. Especially given the fact that they’re showing a propensity on spending money to improve their rosters. And herein lies the dilemma for the Pirates, if they’re to improve then it will not happen under the regime of Bob Nutting, not if they are just prepared to create the illusion that they’re trying to be competitive. It’s one thing to create the subterfuge but it’s another to perpetually repeat it while trying to make a case that you’re trying to improve.

Mario Lemieux and his business partner have repeatedly approached the Pirates’ organization to gauge their interest in selling the team. Each time the Penguins’ owners have been rebuffed and told that …..” the team is not for sale” . This can only exacerbate things further for the long suffering fans of the Pirates. Because they have seen the success derived by the Penguins’ ownership , having brought the franchise back from the brink of extinction to become a ‘financial’ and commercial success’ within the NHL. If the template put into place by Burkle and Lemieux , with regard to the resurgence of the Pittsburgh Penguins. Then there’s no reason to believe why they can’t replicate that success , were they given the chance to own the Pittsburgh Pirates. Because clearly, the route now being taken by Bob Nutting and his regime doesn’t seem to be working at all, on or off the field !


Seventeen years in the wilderness of dissolution and is it any wonder why ………’the Pirates still suck’ ? The Pittsburgh Pirates That Is !

NL Central occupants …….. Final Divisional Standings 2009 season.

St Louis Cardinals 91-71
Chicago Cubs 83-78
Milwaukee Brewers 80-82
Cincinnati Reds 78-84
Houston Astros 74-88
Pittsburgh Pirates 62-99

This may well be how the Pirates’ fans feel about their team . Sade’s ‘ This Is No Ordinary Love’.

Alan Parkins aka tophatal ………..

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Haunting and stunningly beautiful , Helen Folosade Adu , otherwise known as international singing sensation <strong> 'Sade' </strong> . The singer is Britain's most successful female artist having sold in excess of <strong> 55 million albums and CD's </strong> over the course of her a career littered with a string of international hits.
Haunting and stunningly beautiful , Helen Folosade Adu , otherwise known as international singing sensation 'Sade' . The singer is Britain's most successful female artist having sold in excess of 55 million albums and CD's over the course of her a career littered with a string of international hits.

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14 thoughts on “The Pirates Still Suck ……..Pittsburgh Pirates That Is…… !

  1. Allegedly, ALLEGEDLY, the Pirates will have a better year this season. I dunno.
    According to our local sports journalist types…whom by the way…are damn near perfect about LOCAL sports….Pirates seem on track for a better year, but would be a lot better if there was a salary cap..which we all know does not exist.
    The Salary Cap helped or really seemed to help the NFL…why not install it for the MLB? If the Cap goes away this coming season, we will see how good it was. I still say…pay em less, strike, lockout be damned.

  2. al clements

    So a better year for the Pirates this year will be to win 65 games instead of 63 ? Gimme a break ! You’ve had 17 straight years of sheer ineptitude and all that the local beat writers are doing, is to blow smoke up the fans’ ass and that’s about it ! They couldn’t spot a good year in baseball if someone swooped down and bit them in their own ass , much less someone else’s . What did they actually have to say about last year I might ask ?

    Pirates’ fans are either oblivious to the team’s plight or they’re now just think to themselves they’ll continue to put up with the crap as it’s the only game in town worth watching. Personally, I feel that they ought to boycott Nutting and his bunch of imbeciles.

    This has to be the worst team in all of professional sports and that includes the Lions, Raiders , Rams and Browns. Well the Clippers are essentially what they are ……….. dog poop that everyone else tends to crap on .

    Bud Selig and the MLB hierarchy in collusion with MLBPA are ‘too dumb’ to realize the benefits of a ‘salary cap’ !

    And another thing until they stop cow-towing to uber-agents such as Scott Boras, who continue to drive up the salaries. The game will continue to find itself under an extreme financial burden that it won’t be able to meet in the long run. Especially given the fact the tv networks are no longer willing to be held hostage.

    As for Pirates’ owner Bob Nutting he comes across as everything you perceive him to be at first sight. And that’s a blithering ‘idiot’ and ‘a complete moron’ !

    Alan Parkins

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  3. chappy 81

    The Pirates are in such a mess that it doesn’t bear thinking about. From the McClatchy’s to now Bob Nutting, the organization has stepped back into the dark ages.

    What’ll happen is players such as Zach Duke and Andrew McCutchen will end up elsewhere once they’re up for arbitration.

    The Pirates as an organization have shown us that they’re still cheap and that their mindset won’t change one iota and that’s despite what that idiot, Bob Nutting says. The guy is a buffoon as is the entire front office of the Pirates !

    Here’s something for you to sink your teeth into ….. Sofia Vergara.

    Alan Parkins

  4. If I were a Pirates fan, I’d be pissed.

    I have a good friend that is one. He’s obviously not happy either.

    A once proud franchise has essentially become a farm team for teams that give a damn about winning.

    Willie Stargell is definitely not walking through that door any time soon.

    1. Chris Humpherys

      Granted, Nutting has only been in charge of the Pirates as an owner for three years. But in all of that time , all they’ve done is to continually slash payroll and made their profit by way of the tax sharing revenue that they derive of from MLB. And the fans are to think that they’re trying to be competitive ? That’s a damn joke and their entire fan base knows it. Those who don’t must be mentally retarded.

      Alan Parkins

  5. Chris Humpherys

    Rumor has it that next up at PNC Park , the Pirates will have a GLAAD (Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) night wherein gays and lesbians get in for half price. There’ll also be a glam night where the essence of the night games will be to dress up in a costume of your choice in order to celebrate ‘the alternative life style.’ Well that and the customary ‘dwarf tossing’ competition and ‘two for one beers’ may well be the only way they’ll lure the additional fans to a ball game there.

    Alan Parkins

  6. Whatever floats your boat Chris, whatever floats your boat. But don’t blame the guy next to you when his friend , Miguel says that he likes the feel of your manhood as he brushes up against you ever so discreetly.

    Next thing you know , he’ll be asking for your number and what your favorite hobbies and interests are . LOL,LOL,LOL !!!

    I like taking long walks under a moonlit sky when the stars are shining ever so brightly. Words to live by Chris, so becareful what you wish for.

    Alan Parkins

  7. Hey Top – this one makes me wonder if you also had a post out there regarding the Marlins and the fact that they were forced to add payroll….

    1. KP

      I’d done a piece on the Marlins a while back concerning their payroll . which is actually higher than the Pirates . I also dealt with the stadium issue and the recalcitrance of Marlins’ owner Jeffrey Loria . I’ll provide you with a link to it forthwith.

      It wasn’t so much that they were forced but they knew if they were to lose the likes of Hanley Ramirez or Dan Uggla. Then the fans wouldn’t be coming to see the team. What with that and the prospective new ballpark due for 2011. The organization needs all the goodwill that it can obtain and keep the fans wanting for more

      Alan Parkins

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